Friday, April 01, 2005

Yeshiva University vs. the rest of the Academic World

Camp SOY
As I tirelessly work on an article for the Observer (don't ask! Now that Seforim sale is over I need something else to occupy my time), I am shocked to find that Columbia, NYU, and the entire CUNY system are more helpful the faculty members of Yeshiva University that I have been in touch with. I find it ironic that the schools which I have no affiliation with are more helpful than the one that I do have an affiliation with.

11 Comments:

Blogger WillWorkForFood said...

A writer for the Observer ending all of her sentences with prepositions? Tsk tsk, you should know better.
Yes, welcome to YU, where our motto is "the grass is greener at other colleges". But that's the opportunity cost you pay for being at an institution which has a dual-curriculum (if you can apply the word "curriculum" to the secular studies departments).

2:02 PM  
Blogger DianaNOW said...

We're talking serious stuff here -- I think you should write an observer article on Camp SOY and show them what we are!

3:35 PM  
Blogger Orlee said...

Willworkforfood, I am an ideal writer for the Observer davka because all my sentences end with prepositions. Can YU even be considered a college?

12:20 AM  
Blogger Orlee said...

An update on the article- NYU got back to me! Why can't YU?

12:20 AM  
Blogger WillWorkForFood said...

Simply put: YU doesn't care about its attendees, it cares about moolah; therefore, if you're not paying YU faculty members for their oh-so-precious time, don't expect assistance. Doesn't that inspire proud feelings that you're lucky to have an affiliation with YU? And then they wonder why everyone in YU is complaining...

12:04 PM  
Blogger Shael said...

Agreed :)

12:19 PM  
Blogger EMS said...

guys, i hate to be the "goody-two-shoes" here, but can you just re-read everything that's been posted here [w/ the exception of benny's comment]? you guys sound like you have zero hakaras hatov for the colleges that you've attended!! i know that there are definitely things that are annoying about YU and that YU definitely can improve on, but maybe instead of just YU-bashing on this site - which, may i remind y'all has been developed b/c of a YU-student-run activity, which was supported by YU - maybe you should take your complaints to someone who can do something about them and improve the quality of "life" in the university. it's a little disheartening to think that people who gave so much of their time for such a good purpose [am i being a little too positive - or maybe naive - here?] can sit and speak so much negativity - borderline lashon harah?

1:09 AM  
Blogger WillWorkForFood said...

Well, miss EMS, to be perfectly honest, I only worked the sale because I thought the money was going to a chesed organization; how little did i know. I highly doubt i would've volunteered my time had I known in the beginning.
(And don't give me the excuse of being able to make seforim available to the Jewish population at large, because in this case, had I not done it, someone else most definitely would have.)
In conclusion, that I worked at a YU-oriented event, doesn't demonstrate, for myself at least, any affinity to YU.
THe truth is that I happen to love shiur at YU, but beyond that, as we all posted previously, the secular teaching core just happens to be not that great. Except for a select few teachers (e.g. Rav Carmy, etc.), most teachers could care less about their students; some don't even know their students' names. I personally think it's hard to find a teacher who will go out on a limb to devote time to students.

11:03 AM  
Blogger Orlee said...

In response to EMS, It's not that I lack Hakarat HaTov for the college that I am attending, but this is a forum to vent about the problems at YU. Furthermore, as willworkforfood said many professors are impersonal. I find it difficult to comprehend that Columbia, NYU and the entire CUNY system find time to help me and my own university cannot.
In response to working at the seforim sale, that is entirely unrelated to the fact that the university chooses not to help m with an article for their student newspaper.

3:33 PM  
Blogger DianaNOW said...

how did we get so serious all of a sudden!?

2:27 AM  
Anonymous Josh said...

Orlee has inspired us all to look a little deeper, and question the bond that ties us all. Too bad that none of you realized that the answer to her question was simple. The other colleges, unlike YU, have not been instructed by Shmulik to ignore her. Obviously, YU is a great place and has a lot to offer. Shmulik just hasn't had time to take over more than just SOY.

1:45 PM  

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