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So I was always wondering ( I know amazing to believe that I use my head sometimes to do such things -- If you were smelling some burning, it was probably me thinking too hard....) what exactly is the difference between Hocker and Mocher -- and we need to match certain people to these categories (There are some girls singing outside my window, and are really disturbing my thoughts here, cuz they sound awful! -- May you boys never know of such things...G-d bless Kol Isha!) Like Shmulik, Sammy, Josh, ok fine...me, and you know the list goes on..... (Sorry Josh, time for a new forum...)

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Okay, in response to Diana's query I'm going to take a stab at creating a chiluk.

1. The word 'hocker', to the best of my limited knowledge, is not a real word, even in yiddish (someone please correct me if they know yiddish [actually iddish because there's an aleph first].
Ok, I know I'll be branded a blasphemous heretic for positing that the word doesn't come from the European shtetl of yesteryear, but that's the way these things go I guess.

The word is actually 'hawker', which means, and I quote, "One who sells goods aggressively, especially by calling out". Therefore, to 'hawk' is to sell goods aggressively. My guess is that people achieved aggressive salesmanship by going from person to person, trying to push their wares on them. This no doubt sounds remarkably Jewish.

Anyways, this word has now devolved, in colloquial Jewish-speak at least, to mean anyone who goes around striking up conversations that are obviously complete bitul Torah. Such topics that are central to hawking are known as "the hack" or "the hock". My guess is a more apt phrase is "the hawk". Now, when someone is called a "hawker", it's also presumed that he/she knows everyone in the entire world, seeing as they go around "hawking" about all sorts of useless information; "hawking" is at the root of the Jewish grapevine. This is where I belive the line is blurred between "hockers" and "machers", as I will proceed to explain.

2. "Macher" is a completely Yiddish word; "mach" means to do or to make something. Therefore, a macher is one who does a lot, and this has been extended to someone who's always very busy, always making money, or always talking. In normal Jewish usage, macher has a slightly negative connotation, and is normally prefaced by the adjective "big"; hence, the "Big Macher". In everyday parlance, this is synonymous for "big-shot". So the big macher is the one with all the connections; the one who doens't have to wait at the hospital because he/she is on a personal basis with everyone there.

So, since a hawker might also know a lot of people, people confuse the hawker with macher. However, it is possible to be both or have a little overlap of one or the other.

But the way I see it, if you want to clearly distinguish, the macher is the one who just pulled a really sleazy business deal, and the hawker is there to tell the entire world about it.

I hope this helps some.

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I'd like to put my two cents in as well. I'm not going to bother with the etymology as willworkforfood has done. That has been done elsewhere on other blogs. I also won't give examples of certain people that fit the categories, as this could easily be Lashon Hora. I will however do something right in the middle. I'll give the Nafka Minos - the practical differences between the two. That should give you enough to identify them when you spot them in the wild

The bottom line is a Macher is one who uses his connections to get things done. A Hocker uses his connections to get others to do things for him.

A Macher knows the chief doctor and gets special treatment. The Hocker smooth talks everyone in the hospital until he gets ahead. The Macher gets backstage passes for help coordinate the event. The Hocker justs walks past security. The Macher has 3 cellphones, each provide by another organization that he works for. The Hocker has 3 cellphones that nobody pays for. The Macher has his cellphones on his belt in case he needs to grab an important phone call. The Hocker has his cellphones on his belt so that you'll see his cellphones. The Macher does you a favor. The Hocker asks you for a favor.

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BTW, DianaNOW what do you mean "time for a new forum?" Is that another veiled hint that I need a life? Point taken.

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Excellent concrete examples Josh.

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